Dr. Dan’s Health & Business Power Hour Season 2 Ep. 6 with Dr. Ilya Skolnikoff [Part II]

Today on Health and Business Hour Podcast is a Part 2 series (Part 1 was Episode 4), with Dr. Ilya Skolnikoff.

Dr. Ilya is a specialist who figures out what are people’s underlying health concerns, the root causes of their health concerns, and then treat those health concerns with non-toxic therapies that don’t involve any surgeries or prescription medications or what he call the “Skolnikoff method”

Tune in as we dive deep and discuss Protein.


Dr. Ilya Skolnikoff Website: https://www.triadofhealth.net/

YouTube Channel: Triad Of Health Family Healing Center

Patient’s Form: https://ilya49.typeform.com/to/fcS9ne


Guyton and Halls Textbook of Medical Physiology: https://www.amazon.com/Guyton-Hall-Textbook-Medical-Physiology/dp/1455770051

Protein Power by John E. Hall: https://www.amazon.com/Protein-Power-High-Protein-Carbohydrate-Health/dp/0553574752


Hello everybody, this is Dr. Daniel Pozarnsky with Dr. Dan’s Health and Business Power Hour. I’m here today with episode 2 of the Skolnikoff method with Dr. Ilya Skolnikoff, all the way from Northern California. How are you doing today, Ilya?

Yeah, good to see ya, doing great, doing great. It was the Golden Gate Bridge, as you can see right behind my right shoulder there.

California, is not easy to have that whole bridge on my shoulder. But so we’re to talk about protein today. Right?

Well, last time, we talked about water, that’s the first building block of this Skolnikoff method. Right?

Yeah, they’re not really building block, actually, they’re the lifestyle changes needed to– you could call them building blocks, but they’re the lifestyle changes needed to succeed with the Skolnikoff method. Skolnikoff method is a very successful method that people don’t fail a lot unless they give up, quit or never try. So we just have the successful people who continue with the program. So when people are eating the wrong kind of protein, or they’re not drinking the right kind of water, or their blood sugar’s really off, or they’re taking the wrong kind of medication or too many medications, or they’re having terrible digestion that doesn’t respond well with the therapies, not our therapies, but someone else therapies, that means that they won’t get better. So those are the four basic lifestyle changes.



Do you have data on like, how many people like go through your program, reach their goals, like 90%? Or

I have data?


Yeah. So like about 98% of people do really well right away after their first two to three visits; treatment visits. And there’s a few people who take more than two or three treatment visits, but I just went over it, it’s 100% of people succeed when they continue with their therapies. Yeah, it doesn’t mean everyone succeeds. Yeah, we have 100% of people, almost 100% of people fail when they only come in one or two times.

So they come in every week to your office then throughout the program.

Well, this podcast is reviewing the Skolnikoff method; telemedicine method, right. So they don’t. They’ll come in either not at all or once. And then we do everything over the phone.

Depending on what investment you made in your health and your life, and your future, you might have either done one of three things, choice, one would have been an amazing choice, would have been a little bit of a more sciency investment where you’re coming in to see me directly face to face, and we’re doing all the structural chemical, emotional therapies in person. Not everybody can do that. If they’re not mobile, you know, some people are too dizzy to drive or they have different health concerns. You know, obviously, somebody who’s in a coma is not going to go anywhere. Right? So that’s choice one, is they come in to see me.

Do you treat people they’re in comas?

Well, yeah, but, you know, those are not easy patients.


Well, interesting.


I don’t do the manipulation under anesthesia. I’m not licensed to do manipulation under anesthesia. But, you know, we can just help them without doing that. Yeah. Okay. Anesthesia, I don’t really treat people who are under anesthesia anyway. So, you know, people who are in —


Like somebody who may have had like a traumatic brain injury?


So if we start working with them and helping them, you know, it’s their family that would have decided to have them get started with care. If it’s post injury, then that can be difficult depending upon the age. And if it’s before the injury, it’s not as difficult, but you know, people–

That’s kind of getting off topic here. But yeah, I mean, I mainly deal with people who are ambulatory you know, people who are walking and what not, or they were walking when they came in and maybe there’s an injury where they they have they have to be in a cast or they have to have crashed or something like that temporarily while they heal from a fracture. But yeah, most people are walking around and they come in and they walk out of the office also, but can– kind of caught me distracted a little bit. So the point is, is that– Yeah, choice one would be, you know, you come into the office. It’s a bigger investment. Choice two, we send you out some homeopathy that might cost about $500. And there would be 100 different homeopathic remedies.

That depends on what we find during the initial consultation. But they could be there are 30C 200C 1M, or 10M. The best potency seems to be for my patient population, for newer patients right around 1M.

So there 100–


What metric is that you’re using; M and C? What’s M and C?

They’re metrics for homeopathy; the centesimal scale.


So homeopathy is different. We’re not measuring– We’re measuring thermodynamics. We’re not we’re not measuring what you think we’re measuring. Okay.

Homeopathy is just a type of energy medicine. So it’s measuring kinetic energy. And it’s not at measuring speed. So it’s measuring the vibration of the potency. So, again, this isn’t really what we’re talking about here. Because it’s way, way off topic. But, you know, you know, the the approved constitutional homeopathic remedies start at 30 C or above, and then they go up to right around 1000. Okay.

But we do have an hour. So I mean, I don’t know, I guess it’s a good thing that you asked, you know, you know, if you hadn’t asked, and we wouldn’t– there’s gonna be a whole bunch of people wondering what the heck I’m talking about.


Thank you for doing that.

Yeah, is necessarily.

Yeah. Okay.


So let’s go over it. So what is Homeopathy, okay. So if we take a gasoline fumes, and we start breathing them, if we do it for too long, we’re gonna die. So that’s, you know, poorly advised. And I wouldn’t even do it at all, but let’s just say–

Unless you want to die.

While we’re talking about homeopathy, okay. So if somebody takes some gasoline fumes, and they breathe them in a little bit, if it’s a healthy person, they should feel really tired and kind of knocked out, something like they’re about to pass out.

And then you can take the gasoline fumes, and you can put them into water, and then you can shake that water 100 or you could shake it 1000 times, okay?

Now or actually, let’s say you shook a million times, this is very unusual, but I use these potencies in my office all the time, even though they’re really high potency. So if you shake the water 1000 or a million times, which you know, that’s not going to happen right away. But if you if you get started, and you actually do accomplish the million shakes without breaking your arm or something, then you would take just a few drops of that water that had the gasoline fumes, and then you put it in about five ounces of distilled water, then you could shake that five ounces of distilled water a million times, then you repeat the process a million times, okay? After you’ve done that a million times, you’d have a like a potency that’s very similar to 1000M for () or gasoline fumes. () is a little bit different than gasoline fumes, it’s ether. But anyway, it’s not completely different. It’s quite similar. So now, the point is, is that there’s nothing in that lot, that final preparation, there’s no active ingredients in there, that can be found in a microscope,

It does have use, it has a clinical benefit. And the clinical benefit is it makes you feel the same way you would as if you were given gasoline fumes which are toxic for a healthy person, okay. But for a person who has panic attacks, or they have a rapidly beating heart that can calm them down and make them more, you know, easygoing, so that now they are functioning better and has a huge health benefit.

So that’s just one particular homeopathic remedy called a theorem or, you know, it’s like gasoline fumes. So there’s well over 5000 that have been proven. All homeopathic remedies that are approved– that sounds kind of hokey, or kind of like weird language, but they’ve all been approved, and some of them are approved for some countries and not for other countries. So kind of depends on the approving. But if they’re part of the constitutional pharmacopoeia of homeopathy, which is comprised of about 5000 different remedies, all 5000 have been proven. People have actually experimented with taking in the toxic substance and taking notes on how they fell. And then they gave the same thing to a person who had those symptoms. And if it causes the symptoms, it should also relieve those symptoms to unhealthy person. So, you know, somebody who’s exhausted all the time and can’t sleep very well, you can give them coffee. Coffee, you know, coffee is a really very commonly used homeopathic remedy for somebody who’s always exhausted. And it also helps to sleep.

Not the homeopathic remedy, correct?

Coffee is a homeopathic remedy called Coffee cruda.

Yeah, yes.

But if you actually drink coffee, and you’re healthy, you don’t feel more– you feel a little overly energized, if you’re if you don’t regularly drink coffee.

And then it doesn’t necessarily help you to sleep, if you’re healthy, although it might, you know, but it just depends on the person. So anyway, that’s kind of a basic rundown of how homeopathy works. And there’s different potencies. So instead of having shaken the container with the water, you know, a million times, you might have shaken it 1000 times or even, only, you know, maybe 300 times. So you can get different potencies according to how much you Percocet; it’s called percussion. And then the higher the potency, the longer it takes to act and the longer lasting the effect of the remedy, the lower the potency, the less time it takes to act, and the less long lasting the effect of the remedy. So how do you think that answer the the basic idea of it or not?


It’s quite interesting.


Yes. Great.


For the second– you had three steps?

Yeah. Right. So the third option is that they skip the homeopathy, they’re not coming into the office, but we can just do the consultation over the phone.

When we give a consultation, you know, I’m going to determine what therapies are needed and we’ll send out mainly just herbs and nutrients. And that’s the least expensive. Nothing wrong with that it just– when I say it’s the least expensive it may not be because the homeopathy that is given to a person during a Skolnikoff method. Skolnikoff method new medicine consultation is so powerful that, you know, it really does resolve a lot of the energetic imbalances that a person has so they need far fewer herbs and nutrients. If we do not use the homeopathy, they need a lot more herbs and nutrients. If we do use the homeopathy, which is a sizable investment in oneself, and let’s hope you’d want to invest as much in your health as possible, then, you know, you need fewer nutrients and you’re healthier.

Not as much needs to be done.

So, um, you know, one approach isn’t like better or worse than another. It’s just different approaches for different people. I always, you know, encouraged, you know, a huge invest, you know, the highest investment in yourself possible. Come see me in person, you’ll get better results, you’ll feel better faster. And then we go down from there. Yeah, I mean, it’s very straightforward, I think, yeah, like, silver, gold and platinum, you know. But anyway, Silver’s. Yeah, as Platinum is like you come in to see Big Daddy, Dr. Ilya. And then gold is you get the homeopathic kit, it’s like gold, literally, it has the more value than gold does.

I mean, it’s, you know, it’s valuable. And then the lower investment is, we’re going to do great, we’re going to get you healthy. We’re going to use herbs and nutrition and some other, you know, we’re gonna do some other things during the consultation, we’ll figure out your exact health puzzle. And what’s what’s your solution to your health puzzle.

And, yeah, it doesn’t, you know, you’re not paying a whole lot as much. You know, you don’t have to invest as much right away, but you still get the result. You just may need a little bit more nutrition and some more herbs than if we started using homeopathy right away. Homeopathy is very powerful. Very powerful, extremely powerful, it healed almost every disease known to man, except for genetic defects.

Yeah, it was a lot more effective before World War II. When there was–

Why is that?

Well, there are a lot of chemicals put into the environment during World War II. So what what happened was the military was given– you know, their foods were preserved with all these preservatives, and all these different chemicals that allowed them to go out into the battlefield and really, you know– we won the war, okay. So, but the problem was, they then took those those chemicals, you know, laid in preservatives, and then they brought it into the civilian sector. So they brought it from just military use and to food production for everyone here, not only in the United States, but they introduced it to other parts of the world also, mainly here. So, you know, most people, not everyone, but you know, somebody like myself and yourself, we know about Monsanto. You know, we know about the dangers of genetically modified foods. And we know all about that but you know, the average listener may not know about it. So I don’t know how much we want to get into that. I think we should just get into it a tiny bit.

I’m going to talk about–

A mile from my house, one of the clients.



Sorry to hear about that.



Monsanto, is sort of like Satan. You know, they’re just nothing so good about them. Okay, so you had mentioned something, I was thinking, or you were thinking we were going to talk about your health, but what we really need is the form that should be sent regularly. Yeah, that’s a form that we just do once that’s called the protein– you can put it in front of my face, they don’t need to see my face, or whatever. It’s called the protein rating scale. And we’re about to fill that out. So if you’re watching this we should have already been talking about this, but if not, you know, you’ll have access to that form right now, or before we started talking.


You fill it out while we’re talking to Dan, Dr. Dan. Daniel Pozarnsky. There’s no reason not to fill it out is my point. Now if you haven’t already, so let’s go. Right. Okay. So, it may seem like I’m just kind of like, being a dictator here, but really, everybody is different. Okay. So it’s not that we’re gonna just have everybody do the exact same thing. But Daniel here is dealing with a lot of emotional ups and downs and some things with anxieties, almost the same thing as emotional ups and downs, and some similar kind of high levels of stress for a long period of time. And, you know, the more I say it the more it feels silly just talking about your health. Any other big, big things you want to share that are like big, nasty, ugly things that you probably don’t want to talk about like words that have to do with your health, your medications that you’re using, anything like that.

Yeah, I just I don’t feel that healthy. You know, I tried to do a lot of the things that were taught in chiropractic school and things that I’ve read about, and I just kind of gotten stuck. Especially here has been really tough on me. Okay, starting a new clinic and then having Coronavirus.

The Coronavirus affected everyone. Did you get the virus?

I’ve never been tested positive.


But just the financial.


Okay, I’m just seeing if I can get all of our notes. So what about sleep? Can you say anything about sleep or mood that’s slightly slightly more specific, especially sleep?

I’m tired all the time. I sleep, but I don’t feel like I get like into like REM sleep, Deep Sleep, restorative sleep. So that’s it. That’s a huge thing, I think. A huge piece of the puzzle.

Yeah. Okay, so while we’re going through this, see that the big key is if you’re even slightly or remotely, you know, like, Daniel, if you have a little trouble with your sleep or a lot of trouble with your sleep, or your mood could be better, you know, maybe your mood is good sometimes, but it goes up and down. Maybe your mood is fantastic, your sleep is terrible. Maybe your sleep is fantastic. But your mood is terrible. Any combination like that, we’re going to look very carefully at digestion and diet. The two are different, you know, somebody could have a perfect diet and terrible digestion. Or they could have you know, there’s almost any combination as possible. But we’re not just focused on Daniel’s my point even though it seems like this is all about Daniel, it’s actually about you the listener. Yeah. It may not be Daniel, although Daniels, you know, the host. So, we’re gonna mark this up, Daniel will put most of these proteins, you know, my patients have done really well with at least the top half of the sheet. So we’re just going to start to mark it up.

Okay, so we’ll —

Let’s go back, one step, why is protein so important?

Okay, so protein is really important because– another great question, thank you so much.

You’re welcome.

A minute of prayer. And I’m just kidding, we can just do a second prayer. Protein is really important because it comes from a Latin word, which means Proteus, that latin word Proteus means of utmost importance. So, it’s got to be important, every cell in the body is made of protein. And that’s true of this one. There’s a fair amount of a little bit of fat in each cell of the body, and a very small amount minute amounts of sugar, but not a whole lot. The membranes of all the cells are made of something called phospholipids, which are a protein and some sugary stuff and then fat. So that’s the cell membrane of every cell, including the hair, including the bone, including the skin and the nails. Some of these structures of the body have more or less protein, but anyway, they’re still the same basic idea. And so, the other thing is almost all the hormones in the body are made of protein or fat. Some of them are more like mostly fat, but the enzymes and the proteins are– I’m sorry,

The the enzymes and the things that allow for the hormones to be made, or evacuated from the body or metabolized properly, those are enzymes; enzymes are made of protein. So this is like one of these things where for some reason it become controversial, but it doesn’t need to be, okay. So, if you go through really popular medical physiology textbook, I personally like Guyton and Halls Textbook of Medical Physiology.

It’s not the only textbook but I liked it. Okay. And it goes in there, the opposite of what most people are thinking. So most people are thinking that they’re going to eat too much protein and stress their kidneys, but the most common kidney diseases are due to not enough protein intake, or deficiencies of you know, vitamin B3, or vitamin B6 or vitamin B12, or one of the other similar B vitamins like folic acid.

More, so B3, B6, you know, and B 12. Folic acid is really important to metabolize B 12. But, you know, neural tube defects in newborn children due to folic acid deficiency are almost, for sure going to happen if the person, you know, if the pregnant woman doesn’t have enough folic acid, but anyway, get the get the point, right. These things also have Protein like chemicals in them. They’re, you know, that are needed just to have the vitamin itself. vitamins are relatively important. They’re not a big, big, they’re not number one, but they’re pretty important. In other words, all these proteins that are the building blocks of cells that are broken down into amino acids, that are then taken up into your body and many of them are converted into neurotransmitters, like tryptophane and tryptophan and tyrosine. They are, you know, we’re talking about proteins. And even though they’re important, they do require the cofactors the minerals and the vitamins in order to complete the biochemical pathway to get to the neurotransmitter like epinephrine and norepinephrine. The Brady kind of stuff, the you know, the endorphins, the dopamine, the serotonin, whatever.

Okay, so I don’t know. I mean, I think I’m covering it, you know, not too poorly here. I mean, I don’t know, do you have questions based on what I just said?

I think you’re correct. You covered a large amount of information in a short amount of time, which is in a good way, which is understand to the people. I think, one question and you hit on that proteins–

You can’t get it from veggies. Yeah.

Are Not bad for the kidneys instead, they’re– most of the time people are not getting enough protein. Imagine you’re talking about people usually are eating you know, the American diet is 70% carbohydrates and sugar.

America diet is a poor– is a not a very good diet. And I’m mostly in agreement with you like 99% agreeing with me, right? It’s not a healthy diet.

1% not agree.

Well, I mean, there are different Americans in different parts of the country. And there’re different things that are happening for different people and different families and different ethnic groups and things like that, but yeah, overall, of course, I agree with you.

Oh, yeah, right. So when I was talking about the kidney disease, that’s the disease, right. And stage renal failure is due mainly to protein deficiency. It’s not due to protein access, it’s due to too much sugar, too much sugar, not enough protein. Or the other thing that people will do is they do this tricky thing; which they’re– I’m not trying to offend anyone, but they’re basically fooling themselves. They’re saying, I eat protein every day, I eat as much or more than you. I have my hotdogs, my hamburgers, my pizza with the cheese, I have my beans and rice, or I have my tofu and my– whenever they have, you know. Whatever that thing is that they have. They are McDonald’s, whatever it is, right? And they’re there, right? They’re eating protein every day, and they’re eating plenty of it. But you know, what, if you go through the Eades’s book, Protein Power, it’s too bad I don’t have that maybe I’ll, you know, just talking to myself for a second. But if you go through that book, they document that if you mix carbs, complex carbs, like bread, rice, pasta, potatoes, with protein, now you’re going to spike insulin levels and cause all kinds of problems for the body. That leads to all the modern chronic diseases that we have the diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis hashimotos, the heart disease, etc. Okay, so it’s not just, oh, I eat protein I’m good. It’s like, there’s more to it than that. Okay. So there’s protein combining, you know, we don’t want to mix proteins. We don’t want to mix


You don’t want to mix them?

We don’t want to mix proteins.


We don’t want to mix steak and fish. We don’t want to mix chicken and steak. We don’t want to have, you know, whatever Kentucky Fried Chicken steak, whatever they’re called. We don’t want to do turf and surf. Yeah, we just because it’s completely different enzymes needed to break down the different proteins so we just want to focus on, you know, one protein per meal, and no complex carbs with that protein.

Unless it’s the good complex carbs, which are the, the broccoli, the asparagus, the cucumber.

Avocado is not a complex carb really said it’s a fatty thing, best fruit. But we’re not talking about that, all healthy. So that kind of stuff is healthy, you know, lettuce, those are complex carbs. But when people say complex carbs, they got the old food pyramid, confusing the heck out of them.

They’re causing themselves to be sick. The old food pyramid is a scam. It’s a scam, folks. If you’re watching this, and you look at the old food pyramid, you’re scammed. Right on the bottom has the complex carbs, complex carbs don’t belong on the food pyramid at all. The complex carbs are what leads to our modern chronic diseases. The complex carbs have– I don’t want to get too carried away, they do have a place in our human health. And we can have small amounts of them when we’re healthy. But the unhealthy person who lives in a big city with lots of stress, somebody like you know, who’s watching this, or Daniel or myself, somebody like us, we need to pretty much avoid them almost entirely. Um, it’s just a person who does lots of exercise, the unusual athlete, the farmer, the person who lives out in the woods somewhere. Those kind of people, they’re getting so much–

If they exercise that much, they’re going to tolerate some complex carbs, if they have a really high quality complex carb, which there’s not many around, I mean, there’s not a lot of good, you know, a certain kind of wheat that’s not even available anymore. Um, I can’t remember what it’s called, but it’s like iron corn or something. I can’t know what it’s called. So yeah, the old weeds, you know, the original weed that they used to have iron corn, it’s called iron corn. So, you know, if you can actually get your hands on a little bit of iron corn or some good bop wheat– I mean, it doesn’t mean you should eat it. It just means I’m explaining it to you.

That’s the point. That is a great point.

People are gonna get confused, but what about like, like this one patient I had a long time ago, I said, you know, it’s okay, if you have mung bean. You know, because I just like wanted to give her something that she could eat that was a little different. Then she started having mung bean every meal, she got really sick. I’m like, no lady, like, if you have it, like once a month, it’s fine, you know, no big deal. But this lady was going like mung bean crazy, you know?

I can relate because once you start eating just protein, and basically greens, like, we’re so used to such variety that’s really not good for us at all. So, like, I’ll even– I know better, but I find myself trying to find one thing or going down the list of the Candida diet list. Like what’s something different? I can understand why somebody would start eating mung beans forever.

Yeah. So you know, I mean, each person is a little bit different, and we’re dealing with your microbiome. I don’t know if the science is going to help. I don’t know if the science will help my listener, but I’m just trying to watch the time a little bit while we’re talking. Um, maybe we should go through this and then we can continue with– we can talk about whatever I was just talking about. I guess we were talking about protein. We were talking about different forms of protein. We’re talking about complex carbs and whether or not they’re good or not good. And then we were talking about the microbiome, the microbiome, microbiome, yes. yeah. So let’s just kind of put that aside for a minute.

We are okay. Are you okay?

I mean, we can do it in a couple minutes. But I think we got work to do.

So now we’re talking different types of proteins that have– would you say different energy values are different–

They are just different animals. They’re dead animals, different kinds of animals.


–in different places.

What about vegans? What do they do if they come to you, I’m sure this happens a lot.

If they’re not willing to eat a good quality protein, then I don’t, I’m not going to accept them.

You’re not going to accept them.

No, if they want to invest an extra thousand dollars a month taking supplements. And even then why would they want to spend that much money? Just because I mean, it doesn’t– A person with vegan won’t succeed, and then the therapies we do– they’re just not healthy people. And there’s a reason that they might be coming to me, but I’m not gonna waste my time. Yeah, it’s a waste of time. This is about getting results, the Skolnikoff method is about results.



You’re a dictator of results, you’re going to hold us to the Skolnikoff method.

Right, there’s no reason for me to work with somebody and ruin my reputation and waste their time and money, if they’re not going to get healthy and get results. You know, there’s no point in doing that. So I don’t have time for that. And if they do, then they can go to another health care provider, there’s no reason to come to see me. So, um, humans are not vegans, humans are– we eat meat. We have these big canine things here that kind of bites the meat. We’ve been having meat for several– well, almost a million years ever since we’ve been walking up, right. And there’s rare exceptions with a few people in India. And those people tend to be less healthy and have a shorter lifespan, even though they’ve been doing it for 1000 years, it doesn’t seem to work that well for the people in India.

So, you know–

That’s kind of a clue. Um, and so, you know, I’m not trying to offend anyone, I just don’t want to waste people’s time and waste people’s money and just cause problems. I’m here to help people, you know.

So veganism doesn’t work, you need the protein, vegans don’t have enough– they don’t have a good source of protein. You can’t get it from the vegetables, the vegetables have too many phytates. Phytates are poison, they rob your body of the needed minerals that need to be bonded; have carbohydrate bonds to the proteins that are basically things that fly or swim or walk around on the ground. So no need to waste time.

The phytates or whatever in the vegetable that cause animals not to eat it. It’s like a poison.

Phytates are in the nuts, and really, really fiberous things that are never broken down in your mouth. So you start juicing your food you’re getting a ton of phytates and a few other chemicals that are so good. We don’t have an active appendix, like a cow or other ruminant. So we can’t– you know, we don’t make cellulase enzyme. So we can’t break down huge, huge, huge amounts of fiber, the way those other animals can. It’s just not possible. So, you know, we don’t do well with that kind of food. Now, for people who have a little bit of nuts every now and then, you know, it’s no big deal. But I think keep going forward, going forward going for it, um, you know, they tend to have some health challenges that arise from that. I mean, that’s, that’s what all my videos about the ileocecal Valve are all about.; trying to educate people about that.

Yeah. Interesting.

Yeah. So for lamb– the higher the number, the more valuable it is. For lamb we should put a nine. So if you put nine for lamb, for Turkey we should put a nine; turkeys are important, or good or helpful or all right. For poultry we should put an 8, poultries an 8 little bit less refining than some of these other ones. Beef, we should put a nine and then Atlantic fish, we should put a 10, Pacific fish, we should put a five. Okay, the Atlantic fish is getting people confused because we have the farm and then the wild Atlantic fish. It’s always better to have the wild Atlantic fish. But we’re running out of–



Wel, farm fish is not a happy animal, they’re stuck there– in like a cage may be very large. So if the farm fish comes from Norway, or from Iceland, or from Scotland, it tends to be pretty good. You know, it’s a good farm fish, they have really huge spaces that they put aside for the fish. But if we’re talking about like salmon, for example, salmon swims upstream, you know, in the wild, and then they lay their eggs up on the land and like after they swim up a river, and then they come back down. And then they go all the way into the ocean. And they’re hanging out in the ocean. I mean, that is a tough, strong, powerful, very spiritual, very amazing, impressive, great fish. And it’s very healthy too. But we’ve had destruction of our entire Northern Pacific Ocean; destruction, damage, depends on what word you want to use. But due to the Fukushima problem back towards a little after 2011, I guess maybe 2000. I can’t remember what it was.

When the tsunami hit there.

Yeah. So that caused a lot of problems when all the radiation came out of Fukushima. And then–so that caused a lot of problems for the Pacific Ocean. So we don’t want to get exposed to too much of what used to be a really healthy salmon, that would swim up all those rivers. And then to the best of my knowledge on the other side, whether you’re in Alaska, or whatever part of the world you’re in, there’s just not a lot of wild salmon that’s naturally there in the Atlantic. So, you know, you mainly just have the farm salmon that comes from that, that those oceans that are so safe. So, um, again, the farm fish is not terrible if it’s a really high quality one from Scotland, Norway, or Iceland. But you know, you know, it’s just not as good as the happy fish that swim in the ocean, do what they want, it’s more of a natural environment for them, they can fight, they can get killed, they can live, they could have a bunch of kids. That’s the kind of fish that you want. One that’s just living in a natural environment.

If farm is not to be in as cold water,isn’t that a big factor?

I would say it’s relevant. Yeah. Because the chemical structure of the of the flesh of the fish will be slightly different or even considerably different.


They’ll have less fat too.

Probably. Yeah. I don’t know for sure. But yeah, I would imagine so. Yeah. That’s an issue. Yeah, that is an issue. Nothing that we need to like, you know, get ourself worked up about and lose sleep over. But yeah, just in general, we want to get foods that are safe. So I’m going over foods that work with the Skolnikoff method that are safe. So you can get a variety of fish. But if you’re getting like, for example, you know, farmed salmon from Northern California, that’s going to be nasty, disgusting stuff, or if it’s from Southern California, or whatever, or if it’s from Milwaukee, or from Minnesota or whatever, because it’s gonna be a small little crappy farm where the fish are eating themselves that they feed the fish, the dead fish that die, they just feed it back to the other fish. And they put all kinds of– the fish get confused, they’re swimming with only one fan, they’re sick, and then they kill them. And then they harvest them and then they sell them to you. You don’t want to get that that’s going to be dangerous, really dangerous. You don’t want to get food from your local market that’s organic and healthy that’s been sitting in a plastic container like chicken that’s hot in a warm plastic container. I mean, you never want to do that. If it’s cold, should be okay. If it’s frozen, I don’t know if it’s great, but it should be somewhat safe. But if it’s hot, warm and plastic, don’t do it. Okay. Don’t do it. No.


Probably put it in paper. Right?

Yeah. should be okay.


The only thing about that is if you’re going to store it for a while, you want to put it in a plastic bag or when you bring it home, you would want to put it in a plastic bag so not a lot of oxygen gets into that food. So you want to keep the oxygen out so it doesn’t spoil right away.


I mean, unless you’re gonna eat it that day or the next day, you need to kind of– you need to take care of the oxygen getting in. So we did the Atlantic fish is 10. Pacific fish would be right around five to six, so either one.


And then eggs would be -1000. So that’s an allergen.

I thought eggs are good for you.

Exactly. That’s why we’re going over this.


Thank you so much for that important comment. So eggs have–

zero minus 1000.

Minus 1000. Yeah. So for eggs we have the globulin is in the eggs,


So it’s the same protein that’s found in our blood that carries the red blood cells through our blood, right?


Yeah. So sometimes, yeah, I guess there’s a thing because you’re using this speaker. So I guess there’s a lag.


Yeah, so that was cool, though. We love Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom.

And what will happen is your body can get confused and think that the eggs are a part of the component of your own blood. And that’s how a lot of autoimmune conditions can develop. Your body starts attacking the egg, and then it can even attack your own blood. And that’s what they call type of autoimmune disease. It’s not exactly the way I’m describing it. But I’m just trying to make a summary so that you get the basic idea of the problem that happens from eggs. The yolk of the egg– if you are going to eat eggs, which you should not, the yolk has lots of choline, but only if it’s not cooked. So the choline and the nutrients found in the yolk of the egg a really healthy, the cholesterol is good, actually. So the cholesterol, the choline and you know, the B vitamins, they’re great, but it’s too difficult to get that from the egg. And then throughout the rest, just kind of like a lot of work.

Everybody that has an autoimmune reaction to the eggs, or is that just certain people’s bodies, like some people are more sensitive to gluten or some–

Is certain people’s bodies.

But, but


We’re talking about you, right, so you have some trouble with mood, you’re taking a number of medications for the mood, and some of them help with sleep. And so we know that those are autoimmune like symptoms that you have. So, you know, for you and many of the people watching, they’re already having a lot of digestive difficulties. So we want to avoid eggs for that key reason. We’re not like talking to the healthiest of the population where you go in and you get a hamburger, you stick an egg on it, you get more protein, you go and you go to the gym, you work out, you build little extra muscle, go to sleep that night, go to your job, you know, you’re making $150,000 a year selling stuff, whatever you do, you know, that’s our, our person who’s watching this, you know, who’s 26 years old or whatever, we have a different audience for that. So even so, yeah, the eggs are just not a good source of protein, they’re really deficient in the finding. So () is really important for stabilizing blood sugar. And they just don’t do it. I mean, I’m not saying chicken is great, but chicken does helps people more than eggs, you know, it’s a lot healthier. Eggs are just sort of– they’re not great.


Protein in your second step is to get as many nutrients as possible with each meal. We want four meals a day, correct?


I don’t think people need to worry about what our step is, our steps are following the Skolnikoff method, and which is what we’re outlining for you. And we’re making it really clear, it’s exciting, it’s exciting, it’s easy to do, it’s a thrill, because all you have to do is just follow the sheet.

We don’t have to reinvent the wheel, right, we have the wheel already spinning and turning, we have the exact blueprint of what you need to be healthy. So we don’t need to do anything other than follows sheet. We don’t want to make anything up. We don’t want to try to do it differently. We don’t want to try like this little bit of colonics because your friend did colonics and they lost weight and they felt a lot better. And that worked great. I’m sure your friend did and I don’t think colonics are bad. Just follow what we’re doing. And what we’re doing works great. There’s no reason to try something else.

Our goal is to be able to digest the food that we’re eating, and then absorb it and then utilize the nutrients in the food and make those nutrients available at the cellular level where things are going well.

Right then we will feel better, will have more energy, will get sick less often, we will sleep much better, right without the need for a whole lot of medications or, you know, costly nutritional supplements that we’re already talking about. I mean, we’re not talking about the nutritional supplements, it’s not a good use of time. But they’re expensive, you know, they cost a lot, they’re a lot more than zero. They’re not a free deal, you know, nothing’s free, right.

Especially most of the ones we’re using, they’re grown and out Myra, Wisconsin, to really fertile organic soil, they have both animal and whole food, um, you know, factors in them that have to be grown. And they’re not really vitamin isolates that are found in most nutritional supplements that you find in a market like, you know, a vitamin market in your name in your area. They’re grown on a farm, they include the entire food. So there is no ascorbic acid extract by itself. It’s the vitamin C complex, which includes tyrosine, and ascorbic and all these other different food factors. So vitamin E is the vitamin E complex, you know, your body really recognizes it, and it builds new, healthy tissue. I’m not sure where all that came from, but I don’t know what the point of me saying all that was, but we’re not having to– you know, we’re not having to reinvent the wheel is my point.

Talking about process supplements for the viewer; standard Process. Right.

Yeah, we’re mainly using the standard process.



They can only be gotten through a health professional.

A licensed health care provider. Yeah. Yeah, they are prescription only.

And I’m not saying there’s no other good products on the market, it’s just, you know, we’re getting really good results, it’s not the nutrients, it’s the diagnosis of exactly what nutrient you need, and what order, at what time and what dose to get the maximum result. It’s not the line.

It’s not the standard process line, or–

It’s what Standard Process product you take, how much of it, what product you take, you take none, you take a whole bunch, you know it really matters?

Um, okay, so that’s why we’re talking about it. Okay. .

We talked about eggs, pork should be a -2000.


Yeah, pork is not a very clean animal, a lot of the pork eats their own fecal material, which is not as bad as it sounds, it sounds really, really bad. But they’re sort of in an unclean environment. And sometimes a lot of the animal itself is fermenting. And that’s also not quite as bad as it sounds, but it’s not a very healthy food.

So there’s exceptions or some people who can do okay with pork. Most people, they just get into trouble with pork and eggs. So I’m going over ways to stay out of trouble. This is about like, no trouble. You know, this is about like, everything going well here, right?

Yeah. Yeah.

So organic pork is the same basic thing just people get into trouble. It doesn’t matter how great the pork is just better not to get into trouble. And then there’s exceptions. You know, we’re working with each person, you know, I’m working with you individually. You know, if you’re one of those rare people who can tolerate some pork, then that’s okay. If you’re one of those rare people who can tolerate a few eggs, that’s okay. But as a general rule, we’re going over things a little, you know, for Daniel right now. And then Friday. Are you open or close to go frog legs or escargo which are hard to get anyway?



I don’t eat frog legs or escargo . What’s escargo ? Is that fish?

Escargo is the snails, they French


So put a line through frog legs and Escargo, so we don’t waste the time with that.

What’s their rating?

May be like seven for frog legs, seven with Escargo? Yeah, goes from seven to eight.


So anything over around five would be good, you know?

Four and half or five.

A lot of pork and a lot of eggs. So that makes sense.

Yeah, try to get up to as high of a number on the scale as possible. So anything over seven or eight would be really good. So the Atlantic fish is your number one best go to food. And if you’re in the middle of the country, which I guess you are.



Middle North.

Middle North. Yeah, it’s pretty much– I’m guessing, I could be wrong but it’s probably almost as easy for you to get Atlantic fish as it is Pacific fish. So definitely go for the Atlantic, don’t want get fish from the Pacific.

It will let’s say on the packing.

You just have to be really careful. Yeah, not really maybe.



Main is going to probably be East Coast. Right. So– or Austin or whatever.

So that’s gonna be Atlantic.

Yeah. Massachusetts, Maine. Whatever, just something where, you know, the Indian Ocean is okay. The Mediterranean is good. They have good Bronzino from there, some of its farms. That seems to be fine. Also watch out for shrimp from the Gulf of Mexico, because anything coming from the Gulf of Mexico is suspicious, because we had that big, I guess was Mobil Oil spills.


Stuff there years ago. And then– they put this dispersant there and you don’t want to play any games with the Gulf of Mexico. So be careful that you’re, you know, shrimp is a really good quality shrimp preferably wild from, you know, the East Coast, if you’re in the United States, or if you’re in another part of the world can be flown in from anywhere. Just don’t get it from those countries that are in the Pacific like the South Pacific, Japan, Vietnam, Korea.


You just don’t know what’s going to happen. It’s too risky.

But India is good.

Oh, you’re suspecting it? Yeah, you don’t know really. So it’s too much– And it’s not just radiation, I mean, sometimes, like, if it’s coming from Vietnam, you just kind of wonder like, Huh, so it’s coming from Vietnam? Hmm. You know, I just kind of think about it a little bit. Like what happens in Vietnam? Nobody has any money. You know, people sometimes sell things that they paint green because they’re not green. And then they send them to other countries.

Like you just don’t know what’s happening.

It’s too weird. So, you know, if you can get a lot of more information about the food you’re buying, it’s better. You don’t want to be left in the dark about everything, you know. So I’m not saying you can’t find good food in Vietnam, but you got to just be careful. That’s all.

Yeah. All right.

I thrown away a lot of food that is not good for me.

Good job.


Hi five Daniel.

Hi five! Yes,

Yeah, well, we can go over the complex carbs a little bit more in the microbiome. So there’s a whole lot of research showing that people can benefit from eating a really varied diet with lots of different kinds of foods, which is not really something I’m going over here. So the reason why we’re not going over it is because we’re giving you a specific diet that’s specific to you the listener, and it’s not a vary diet, I mean, I’m just gonna be honest with you. Because we don’t want to vary diet for you, we want the one that’s specific, that’s going to get you healthy, right? As soon as possible. So if you start adding a little bit of potatoes and rice and pasta, you’re gonna run into like big doggy doo doo. So we don’t want that. We want you to get healthy right away. We’re getting rid of some infections with many of you. Like Daniel’s an example. He has some infections we’re getting rid of. He’s using Daniels good man as you can see. He’s using a little bit of golden seal to help with a bit of a bacterial infection. Hopefully, things are going okay with that. How are your sinuses, a little bit better or not?

They’re better as long as I don’t eat stuff that you told me not to eat.

I can do this, watch. Hopefully everyone can see this. I just stand here.


You’re on the Golden Gate Bridge. Remember that? Don’t jump.


Thank you very much.

Glad I can help.


But it’s not that easy. I’m gonna say it’s not easy to just do the easy thing.

I believe is–

A lot of supplements because of the bad bacteria that makes you crave some of the other things.

If you go to triadofhealth.net, remember there’s the form that’s called path to help chart. So that path to health charts basically going over how quickly we start feeling better. Very important chart.



You go to learning and then what to expect. And then you see that path to health chart there. Oh, it’s on my screen. I don’t know if they can see my screen.

I can’t see it. I think if you– you pulled it up last time.


Shares screen– Oh, we can’t. Okay, you disabled me.

Oh, wait, I think I can enable you.

I can’t, I don’t have it available to quickly show.

We can do it slowly.

Actually, I could do it pretty quickly now that I think about it.

Let’s try it. I used to be able to share.

Yeah, I’m gonna be emailing you that. You have access to your email?

Yes, I’m on your computer.

You just got it.

It’s not the most beautiful thing the one you got. But that’s fine.

I can pull it up here.

I take that back. The one you received is sort of beautiful.

The file I sent you, it’s pretty good.

All right. Okay.

There’s more attractive things when you’re looking at, you know,


Yeah, so we can go Oh, you want to do my screen? Let them know Sherry port. Oh. Oh, nevermind. I got sidetracked for a second. Sorry.

My computer is still thinking about.

Let’s see, it’s been emailed to us. You might have it. They’re sitting there. Oh, yeah. You got you. You got it, I think.

Right. See here? Which email? Did you say? You just shared it? back? There, I can see it on your screen now.

Oh, really? Okay. Connect.

Can the viewers see it, and viewers can see it. Oh,


So going from the symptoms over here, the red circle to the I’ll make it as big as we can, to the green circle.

We’ll do that, at whatever pace a person who’s watching this, like Daniel or myself are ready to do that. So we want to correct and strengthen the underlying causes of your symptoms. So in Daniel’s place, you know, there was trauma from when he was a kid, that’s gonna mean we have to talk about that a little bit some point now while we’re doing a podcast. And then there’s, you know, some trouble with digestion, a few infections and all this kind of stuff. So, you know, he’s having some trouble with his sinuses, his moods, sleep, etc. His energy’s been low etc. So we want to get to the symptoms first and foremost. It’s important to him, it’s important to me, it’s important. So we do that, he feels better, his sinuses feel better, he sleeps better, he needs fewer medications. That’s great. And we want to continue to correct and strengthen the underlying causes of the problem. The trouble with digestion, the emotional causes, the chemical causes, the structural causes. And then we want to help with neurologic hormone and brain support to the point where at a certain point soon, he doesn’t even need any medications, and everybody goes at their own pace. We’re not trying to like rush, rush, rush people, this is not a dictatorship, it’s a it’s an open healing process. Okay. It’s a lot more like a democracy, you could call it. So we want to go from the symptoms, or we will go from the symptoms to feeling good, as fast as we can.

But we also want to go as slowly as we need to, for you to get the long, lasting and permanent results that you’re looking for. So, um, it’s okay that Daniel is struggling a little bit with making some dietary changes.

We just want to support him, right? I’m just going to support him along each step of the way. We’re not going to say oh, my God, like what were you thinking? Like, oh, my goodness, you should be ashamed of having that, you know, whatever, pizza cupcake, whatever, whatever it might have been, you know.


I feel like you’re watching me.

If I eat something bad. Oh, my God. I wouldn’t have to report this on the podcast. I eat a pizza one day after I was doing good. I felt just horrible for about a day and a half after that. I was like, Oh, my God, this must be working because when I eat the thing he says it works.

Yeah, so the microbiome is incredible. We’ve now completed the Human Genome Project. And the theory was, and it really was a theory. At the beginning of the project, the scientists thought they could map out each and every part of the human genome so that they could identify each gene and what it did, and then do terrible things that they shouldn’t be doing, like genetically modifying things. But they wanted to get rid of diseases. So it wasn’t like a bad intention. It’s just, you know, humans don’t reall–, you know, this is not the way life works. Life is done by God. It’s not done by humans. Okay. But anyway, not every human realizes that, they think they can improve upon what God was doing. But you can’t. Okay.

So anyway, they were trying, and then they realized, well, wait a second, you know, when we map out all the genes, it’s not the way we thought. We’re missing like maybe 40, or 50, or even 60% of the genetic material that we thought we would find. We’re almost the same as an earthworm, genetically, you know, just a little bit different. I mean, not that much. So they thought, well, wait a second, humans and earthworms, they seem really different. I mean, it’s like, you know, really different, right? I mean, earthworms aren’t even primates.

Then what they started was to investigate the bacteria in the gut, we figured out–, we’ve known for a while that there’s about literally 10 times more bacteria and viruses in the gut, than there are cells in the entire body. Okay. And then, um, so the, the microbiome is the bacteria, there’s about 40 trillion bacteria, and the biome, B-I-O-M-E is part of the microbiome. Those are the viruses in the gut, and there’s about 60 trillion, different viruses. So this is like a major part of our immune system, like this is the immune system, essentially, this is the most important part of it at least.


The point is, is that the gut ecology is very important, the environment of the gut, the pH of the gut, the bacteria in the gut, the viruses in the gut, the mold, yeast, fungus, and Candida in the gut, the parasites in the gut, that microbes in the gut, the maybe there’s, you know, what, we also have some pathogens in the gut, but hopefully not too many. So these things are all really important. And what they found out is that when they when they did the new project, the Human Microbiome Project, they discovered that it’s the genetic material of the microbiome, that determines our genes and the expression of our genes. And that the microbiome can change by just when we change our thoughts, or when we change our diet, or when we change our environment, or when we change our air, when we change our temperature, and when we change our experiences. And so those are all things that we can control. We’re not victims of our genes. We’ve all been lied to and misled, more so about health and healthcare than any other academic subject. I mean, definitely more than computer science. Computer Science is like light years ahead, healthcare is light years behind. I wouldn’t even call I barely call it a science considering how backwards it is. So this is how, you know, we can help people to heal.

Daniel was asking, you know, so what are we trying to do with digestion?

We want to understand what is healthy digestion, what causes it, what causes healthy digestion is a happy person who’s eating something. They may not be eating the perfect thing they may eat the wrong food. But if they’re really happy and excited and easy going, and having a good time, when they’re eating the wrong food, things go pretty well. I’m suggesting you guys eat the right foods, you know, because that way we can cheat this test. We can cheat on the test, we’re gonna get a really good score, right? So for a while we cheat, and after a while these lifestyle changes they become daily habits. We no longer have to think about what’s the healthy food to eat. We’ve established good healthy activities of daily living, good healthy lifestyle, that allows us to no longer have the symptoms. We just feel good all the time, we’re at the green circle now. Okay. And then we don’t necessarily need to get the consultations as often, you know.


The most important point is the one I started with, okay, is that we can go whatever pace you want to go at. We can go as fast as you’d like, or slowly as you’d like, but we want to get the long term long lasting results that you’re looking for. And so you know, whether you started with the silver, gold or platinum, you know, investment that’s, you know, a little bit smaller medium or major investment. Either way, um, you know, the major investment was the– that’s the one I’m suggesting is the best. It may be not possible for all of you watching, but if you come directly to our office, you know, we’re going to be helping you. And if things don’t work out the way we wanted them to with the silver or the gold, it’s okay, you know, with the silver level or the gold level, I’ll offer you some care directly in our office without an additional investment in yourself. Other than, you know, you might need to pick up a few nutrients here and there and pay a little bit for those. Our homeopathy might cost, you know, a little bit 10 or $15 or something for remedy, you might need two or three of those remedies. But that’s it. So I think that’s– you know, that’s not going to be too bad. So it’ll be amazing is what I meant by that. Okay, what do you think Daniel,.


We talked a little bit about complex parts. But the point is that the human microbiome does respond well to a varied diet. The research does show that. A varied diet is a little bit different than what the diet I’m prescribing is. But if you can just get really healthy fish and green leafy vegetables, like some good okra, some good a rubella, some good asparagus, some good beef, some good lamb, maybe a little bit of, you know, Buffalo, which is also made it at a nine.


Obviously, the fish is really important, you’re going to do really well, you know, we’re going to help you. You’re going to be feeling great, everything’s going to go well. And we just need to get that gut ecology really healthy. So that you know, you don’t have the symptoms come back.

I had one fellow, he was having headaches. His name is Marc Anthony Stevens, he was having headaches for 37 years. Every month, he’d have headaches that were so bad, he would have to throw up and lose a few days of work and everything. Because his headaches were so bad. I mean, 37 years, I treated him one single time, using this Skolnikoff method. He needed one single nutrient at the end of that visit. And it’s been two and a half months now, his headaches are completely gone. He hasn’t had them. Since that one single treatment visit in the office and his stories are on our website. It’s the top story at the very top.


So triadofhealth.net. But if you go to triadofhealth.com you will be forwarded to triadofhealth.net

So yeah, that’s fine. triadofhealth.com , triadofhealth.net


I have a question. What is the average time it takes for somebody to get through your program?

Well, the average time it takes is, yeah, I mean, this is a 12 week program. So, yeah.

12 weeks? Okay.


And then people can vary their diet if they want. or not.

Everybody’s a little bit different in terms of their diet.

We work directly with each person, it’s custom tailored to each individual person. So good question. So see that on the top there. It says custom tailored and personalized program, because everyone is different, everyone needs a different program. The program you are being given, goes through these three phases charted out below. So the first phase is symptom relief, then there’s the “I feel good phase”. And finally, there’s this supportive care. Yeah, people generally start to be able to vary their diets. Um, right after you know that period of time. Yeah, just like you said, After about 12 weeks, they kind of vary and depends on the person. Everybody’s so different.

This is custom tailored, right. So it’s not the same for everyone. It’s not a cookie cutter approach. It’s custom tailored just for each individual person.

Mm hmm.

Yeah, each person gets to eat things that are slightly different.


Like, once you take everything away, do you add things back slowly? Or?

No, no, no.

we’re just doing everything. And at the

Every time we do the consultation, which happens about once a month depends on whether it’s silver, gold, or the it’s actually diamond, not platinum. Silver, golden diamond . Yeah, depending on which one it is.

That’s how often we do the consultation. But um, but yeah, for having trouble in between then, they fill out the symptom survey form and send it over and then we’ll process that and get back to them. Actually have somebody who’s waiting for me to do that right now as we speak.

Oh, so you have them redo that throughout the process?

Yeah, the symptom survey form is right–

It’s going to be in front of us in about 20 seconds here.


Well silver you do it once a month, gold you do it every few weeks, you know, two or three weeks. And then with Platinum, yeah, you do it a little bit more, more often than every two weeks. It just depends on the person. It’s not quite so set in stone as one might think, since it’s custom tailored.

Yeah. Okay, great.

But yeah, with the with the diamond, you know, you get a little bit more attention.

If you’re struggling a little bit, you know, and it’s only been a week and a half, you know, we can still process this, you know, pretty quickly with them there, a couple days, and then see what we need to do to help.

Okay, great. Well, maybe I should fill that out again, maybe that would be a good idea.

Start with the history of dietary intake form where you’re writing down what you’re eating from day to day. Is this one, um, their daily record of food intake? See this? Yep. Yeah, it’s from that company standard process, they put together this form. So you describe what you’re eating and drinking from day to day, and then we need no less than, you know, four or five days worth. And then if you send that over to me, and then we’ll take a look at it and just kind of, you know, we’ll, we’ll help you with that.

Okay. All right. I’ll start filling that out. My problem is a lot of times I don’t eat enough times. Yeah, enough times per day. So I was used to eating once a day.

I think we need to get you on the diamond program.

Yes, you can. Possibly.

Yeah. Also, we haven’t had any therapeutic consultations at all.

Go ahead.

We’ve been doing everything online and over the phone.

We didn’t do any phone conversations lasting more than like, 12 minutes or something

No, no.

Yeah. So what we would do, you know, what we do for all of our people who are getting the homeopathy, you know, the gold or the or the, or maybe diamond, maybe not diamond, but for the gold we– you know, they have the homeopathic kit in front of them.

And then on a regular basis, we go through that at least once a month. And then we figure out what homeopathic remedies they need. And that dramatically impacts their health and helps them to you know, get on track.

I’d like to get a homeopathic kit. That’d be interesting.

Yeah, I’d be happy to send that over to you. You’ll tell me whenever you’re– you just told me so we can send that right away.

The other thing is our listeners and yourself too Daniel, you’d want to have five protein meals per day, not the size of my palm and fingers. But put your hand up.

I can’t.

Your entire palm and fingers. Can they see your palm and fingers or just your fingers?

Well, you have to undo dietary form.

I can’t actually see myself.

What am I doing wrong here?

Just go back to you. So unshare, unshare screen.

Oh, unshare the screen. Okay. Oh, my God. Hold on a second. Stop share. What do you think?

Yeah, now they can see me again.


So your whole hand palm and fingers. The entire hand. We want to have that much of those proteins five separate times per day for Daniel.

Five times.


So you know, we’re thinking about when you wake up. And then you know, there’s gonna be a whole bunch more times.

Why can’t you just eat one huge meal per day?

Because the blood sugar won’t be stable throughout the day if you have one huge meal because that’s what we’re helping you with; stabilizing your blood sugar.

Stabilizing your blood sugar will help with your mood. It’ll help with your energy. It’ll help with your organs and glands especially your pancreas, pituitary, hypothalamus, I mean, your thyroid and your adrenal glands. And which is nice.

But anyway, stabilizing your blood sugar helps with your muscles and your joints and your ligaments and it helps with your sleep.

That’s one of the four main things we’re doing is stabilizing your blood sugar.

Alright, isn’t that when that be the kind of a cheat? So you could just have, you know, ketones instead of —

You fuel as ketones instead of running up blood sugar, then you have to eat once a day that you can do more.


That’s not a good idea, that’s a bad idea. That’s what’s gonna cause problems for you.

Yeah, that’s not a good idea, that’s not a stable blood sugar.

We are talking about helping you with ketoacidosis. So you will have large amounts of fat. And you might even release a little bit of protein or fat in your urine, which sometimes they call that a kidney infection. But you shouldn’t be releasing too much of that stuff in your urine.

But anyway, no, this is not a one meal per day, starvation diet, that you’re thinking of.

That kind of diet would be dangerous for the type of patient that I’m helping. It’s not necessarily. I’ve heard about the benefits.

I’m familiar with that. And that’s a whole other subject. The other thing that I’ve noticed some of the people who promote that type of diet, what they do is they’re actually eating something anyway. So they’ll have some kind of a meal in the morning, it’s just not their main meal. It’s like a little snack that they have, or they have like some amino acids or something. So they’re not really always following the eat nothing and then eat a big lunch, and then you’re good or whatever.

Yeah, yeah.

There’s so many different variations. I mean, if the person’s healthy, and they have really strong adrenal glands, and their blood sugar’s really stable, well, these are not my patients, okay. And they can have like a meal once a day, or they can do their athletic stuff, you know, their, their sports, and then– they do their sports, they eat their meal, they go to sleep, they wake up, they do their sports, they eat their meal, they go to sleep, they wake up, and you know, they can just take off a day or two every now and then to heal. That’s not my patients. Okay. Those are athletes and competitive, you know, those are different kind of– those are like a healthier person than my average patient.

Their system can handle that, you know, we’re not doing anything like that, though.

Well, that I did before Skolnikoff method.

Okay, yeah, that was bad idea.


It seems logical.

I did feel better.

Yeah, there are people that can lose weight doing that. And there are some benefits. And in India, they say, you know, your body’s going to clean itself out. And it’s easier on your organs and glands, because it takes a lot of energy to digest your food and this and that, and that list.

It’s not that all that’s wrong.

I’m not saying it’s like lies or anything like that. It’s just not what we’re doing here. You know, we’re doing something different than that. So, um, it’s not that doesn’t work for some people under certain conditions. That’s real–, you know, what that would be really a good diet for, would be an actor, right, or a bodybuilder, or somebody who’s trying to sculpt– you know, their sculpting muscles, they’re entering into a bodybuilding contest, they need to show their physique and show off certain muscles.

It doesn’t mean it’s that healthy anyway, I don’t really promote the app, and after doing it, but actors do need to have a certain kind of body type. And when they do that they can alter their body dramatically. And if they have a coach, and if they’re, if they’re getting all kinds of–

They can do different things with lab work and things to monitor themselves to make sure they’re not going to get anything too dangerous. But this is not my patients that I’m helping. So we’re not doing anything like that. Yeah.

Okay, great. Well, I won’t do that. Okay.

I mean, it’s an interesting idea. It’s just– it’s not really so good of an idea in practice, unless you’re those rare actors, or bodybuilders or a special kind of athlete or something.


Or a high fashion model is the same thing, right? Somebody who’s doing modeling, the models aren’t that healthy in general, whether male or female models. So you know, you don’t want to aspire to be an unhealthy model. Just stick with what we’re doing and works really well.

Some of those models– I mean, it’s really sad what what they’re doing to their bodies, you know? Yes. Yeah.

All right. So we cover protein and a lot more.


I think we did good.

Yeah, we did. Great. So this time we do blood sugar. And our next episode Skolnikoff, Episode.




Blood sugar, and was the fourth digestion?

Water, protein, blood sugar and digestion? Yeah


Sorry, if you don’t mind me saying this, just a little tidbit. We are wanting to avoid all the complex carbs that have the high glycemic index, just because the sugar is what stresses our organs and glands and causes the modern diseases. So there’s a real reason for it. But it doesn’t mean I’m putting down complex carbs for everything. They’re not bad in all situations. They’re just bad for you, the viewer who is using the Skolnikoff method to get healthy. You don’t want to do that. It doesn’t mean that all humans shouldn’t do that. But you shouldn’t be doing that, that’s what we’re talking about. That makes up. Yeah.

All right. Thanks, Dr. Skolnikoff .

Thank you, sir.

Second episode here, and we will talk to you soon in about three, four weeks again.

The highest good is to find the cause.

The highest good is to find the cause. Thank you.

Okay. Thanks, Daniel.

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